From: Glen Gordon
>What Glen? Agricultural technology, genetics, language and religionNo, no, no. John, you got mixed up again. I am of the education that
>moving together. I thought this was an anathema to you. You are
>always preaching to me that they move independently from each other.
>It is usually me who writes
>By this I presume also archaeological artifacts. Good to see youFat chance :)
>coming around to my position.
>I suppose you would be interested to see then that from Ubaid timesThen... why does Sumer have agriculture? Obviously there were things moving
>that population densities were highest in Southern Mesopotamia and
>declined further the greater the distance one was from this area.
>People tended to migrate out from this source, more often than they
>migrated into it.
>The exception you rightly point out is Akkadian. The AkkadianActually, I was using Akkadians in the case of my views on mythological
>migration does not show up archaeologically very clearly though.
>This is probably due to the fact that they (like many later SemiticSurely the Akkadians had a Semitic belief system of some kind. Yes, the
>waves) started out as nomadic herders, perhaps the tent dwellers
>mentioned in the story of Enki and Ninhursag. Nevertheless, Akkadian
>only began to have any involvement in the Sumerian corpus as the
>Sumerian culture area moved north. In the Sumerian kinglist, Semitic
>names only appear in the first Dynasty of Kish (after the movement of
>hegemony from Eridu to Bad Tibira and then Larak). By then the
>essential features of the Sumerian mythos were firmly established.
>It would seem that, based on religious forms and etymology the
>Akkadians borrowed most heavily from the Sumerians, not the other way
>Thus when Glen writesCertainly, he/she is eventually associated with Sumerian Inanna. How do you
> > Further, eventually we see Akkadian-speaking people migrating into
> > Sumerian-speaking territory and putting a new spin on Sumerian
> > a SemitoEuropoid flavour. Again, independent of language spread.
>It was rather the Sumerians who put a new spin on Akkadian beliefs
>(eg. Ishtar changing gender from proto-Semitic male to Akkadian
>female, to allow the incorporation of the Sumerian Inanna mythic-
>cycle into Sargonic Akkadian.
>Glen, your hypothesis is driving your analysis of te facts, insteadI'm attempting to unweave the mythological sources from each other. In order
>of the facts creating your hypothesis.