From: John Croft
> No. Baal has characteristics associating him with all fourqualities:
> FLING/MARRIAGE WITH VENUS,Venus, Glen - the Roman Goddess? Or the planet Venus? Certainly not
> UNDERWORLD DOING STUFFBaal, in none of the myths spend most of his time in the Underworld.
>These characteristicsSo you see these characteristics are seen readily in Zeus
> aren't as readily seen in Zeus.
>How does he relate amorously with VENUS, forHera was his sister. Anat was Baals sister. No Venus in either one.
> >Baal was not asserting his control of the underword in hisstruggles >with
> >Yam and Mot - instead he was asserting his primacy as head of theof
> >Pantheon, in the same way that Zeus asserted himself as Chief God
> >the Olympians (also ruling from a mountain).Glen conceeded
> It can be validly seen both ways although Baal's qualities lean theGlen, your interpretation of Baals qualities may have vailidity for
> interpretation in my favour.
> >These "ancient" connections go back to the post Mycenaean age, whenwater
> >late bronze age Ugarit and Iron-Age Phoenician conceptions of a
> >tripartite world (the heavens = weather God Baal, the oceans =
> >God Yam, and the underworld = God of the Dead, Mot), came togod?
> >influence Hesiodic theogony of Zeus, Poseidon and Hades.
> Then... how does El fit into this picture if Baal is the only sky
> >Good site Glen. One that clearly derives Apollo from Ugaritic(i.e.
> >late Bronze Age) "Reseph". It is interesting that Appollo is notMaiden as
> >found in Mycenaean names,
> I'm not particularly interested in Apollo. The IE's have the Sun
> far as I'm concerned so Apollo obviously isn't exactly relatable.Thanx for
> proving my point. However, I hope you don't believe that there wassimply no
> sun deity in Mycenaean times, that would be absurd.No but he was not Apollo.
> 3. Cosmology originates with the Sumerians.confused
> >Glen try reading Samuel Noah Kramer's "History Begins in Sumer", or
> >his work on "The Sumerians" before you start shooting of "expletive
> >deleated's" all over the list.
> What you present is nothing serious on this topic. You seem
> Sumerians and ProtoEuphrateans so I'll let you figure it out withyourself
> first before discussing this further.to say
> >Glen, how many times do I have to keep saying, in Canaanite belief
> >Baal was God of All Domains, just like Zeus was. But this does not
> >make him the Underworld God, or even a Underworld God (Just as Zeus
> >was not God of the Underworld).
> The problem is that there were TWO sky gods, El and Baal. It's easy
> that Baal was god of all domains but while there were cults of Eland cults
> of Baal, there were also mythologies where El and Baal coexistedtogether
> like in SumeroAkkadian myth (Anu and Enlil).Exactly Enlil god of air, of wind; Anu God of the Vault of Heaven.
> I asked John after asserting that the Goddess religion must havebeen
> henotheistic instead of monotheistic as if this made a severedifference:
> >What should we be looking for as a characteristic of "monotheism"ONE deity
> >Mono = One
> >Theos = God
> >Hope this helps.
> Exactly. One god. This is my whole point. The European Goddess is
> who happens to have _many_ aspects - hence, it _is_ a MONOtheism.How can
> you not understand this?Monotheism is usually associated with a single, transcendent
> Zaehner is irrelevant. Your initial assertion is completelyunverifyable
> whether with or without Zaehner's input and therefore doesn'tconstitute a
> proof of anything whatsoever. You're illogical and furthermore, theHello kettle. Try calling the pot black ;-)
> distinction here is trivial and fruitlessly argumentative.