Re: [tied] Re: Breaking Neander News

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 3563
Date: 2000-09-04

>Now for really flying some kites.
>[...]
>So, is it to be wondered at, that here we have
>1. The oldest known language in situ of Europe [...]
>2. With a genetic structure that emphasises their uniqueness
>3. That this is the region of Chatelperronian culture [...]
>4. [...] not far from the region where evidence of hybridisation
>between Hsn and Hss may have occurred.
>5. [...] only population in which a Rh- genetic isolating
>mechanism for the development of a potential new "species" of humans
>is found.
>6. That Western European stories of survivals of "giants" (jotun,
>ettins, etc) are all concentrated on mountainous regions of cold
>climate (where the cold adapted features of Neanderthals would have
>given a survival advantage longest).
>7. That the chief feature of Neanderthalers (apart from heavy brow
>ridges) was the enormous size of their nose. The modern human race
>with the biggest noses is that portion of the Hss which came to live
>in the area where Hsn was previously established.
>
>Is this all coincidental?

As for #6, there are so many cultures with "giants" all across the world,
John, in cold and WARM climates! Get a book on Hindu mythology and tell me
there isn't a certain deity whose foot spans the cosmos!! There goes that
point.

As for #7, "big" noses can be found in many parts of the world too. It
depends on what your criteria is. If you are looking for impressive nose
bridges, like the one I handsomely sport :), you could easily find one in
Palestine or Turkey, not just Europe. Further, if the genetics of Europe
were largely influenced by the Middle East with the bringing of agriculture,
then we have a confusing picture concerning our big nose theory. Have a blow
on my proverbial hanky, John :P

Now #5 is interesting and I was unaware of blood factors, however, this may
not be indicative of any species-interbreeding. It can just as easily be
explained as a simple genetic mutation.

The only correlation you can reasonably make is between the position of
Basque and the position of supposed Neanderthal hybridisation (which as far
as I was aware is still shaky business). The theory isn't very solid or
considerable at all because there are so many unknowns.

I also find it troubling that you can use one man's view on Basque
xenorelationship as an anchor for your kite flying. Come back to earth. I
know Larry Trask to be very conservative about Basque external
relationships, however, among the many theories out there, I'm sure that
even he would agree that a Basque-Caucasian relationship is the most
noteworthy research at present (even if it is very piecemeal so far).

- gLeN

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