Re: [tied]

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 3468
Date: 2000-08-29

OK, I've understood.
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From: Piotr Gasiorowski
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [tied]

 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [tied]

The Goths did not call themselves "Goths" with th/dh. This is a late Graeco/Latin name for the original Gutones. We discussed the whole Gothic issue on Cybalist a long while ago; you can try to find the thread. There are no formal obstacles against comparing their name with that of the Gauts (Geatas, Gautar), though of course they were not the same ethnos. It's more like the case of Slovaks/Slovincians/Slovenes etc.
 
Piotr
 
Piotr
 
 
I think *gauta- (Geats, Gautar) is a different root of *guth-/gudh- (Goths)...
 
Joao SL
Rio
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:51 AM
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It's usually assumed that *gauta- and *gut-o:n- contain the same root. The "Geats" (Geatas = Norse Gautar) of Beowulf were a Swedish people.
 
Piotr
 


Also, could the Jutes have any connection with Goths? I only ask this on the
basis of the modern Swedish pronunciation of Goteborg, usually rendered
Gothenburg in English.