Re: [tied] Athena, Tritos and the painfully obvious origins of Indo

Thanks Glen

> Hmm, this is tasty. Of course you must be familiar with Mallory who

mentions

> *Tritos "The Third One" in his "In Search of the Indo-Europeans".

No, unfortunately I'm not familiar with Mallory. Could you give me more
details about *Tritos?

> >Athena's symbols, the cat, the snake, the bird, the pillar and the
> >shield, don't come from Anath or Neith, but direct from the Cretian
> >Great Goddess.

The cat. It's strange that IE doesn't have a word for "cat", although wild
cats are so common through Eurasia. Unless the word *luks- for "lynx" means
wild cat too...

John:

> >Poseidon has been identified as the Mycenaean Poseidas - a consort of
> >Potnia. Could it be that Athena was originally a Cretan Goddess of
> >the Sea (along with her many other atributes) and Poseidon was her
> >consort, who later usurped her maritime role.
>
> Or could it simply be that Athena is a European-flavoured version of

*Tritos? If so, unless you see homosexuality as a large part of IE myth
which is interesting in itself :), Poseidon (or rather *Nepo:t) is probably
not originally a consort of *Tritos or vice versa. Instead, they are fellow
warriors doing battle against something - a big bad snake? Of course,
nothing says they can't be gay, I suppose. Afterall, what kind of a silly
name is *Tritos, anyway? Let's call him "Lance" or "Guy" instead :)

I think the Thunderer God *Perauno-/*Tn@... brought by IE was reflected in
Zeus or Poseidon, in different regions - different syncretisms. (Could
*perkw- the explanation of "Perseus" ?)
Poseidon surely also have a "mark" of *A:pm Nepo:t, master of subterraneous
waters. (I can't find an etymology for his name: Bernal mentioned *Pr-Sidon,
but I'm not convinced. Mycenean tablets spell Po-se-da-o (*Poseidahon)
<*Poseidas/Poteidas? Poti-Dan "De's husband" is just a folk etymology...

Joao SL

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Subject: [tied] Athena, Tritos and the painfully obvious origins of
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> Welcome Joao. Cool stuff.
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> John:
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> John:
> >Poseidon has been identified as the Mycenaean Poseidas - a consort of
> >Potnia. Could it be that Athena was originally a Cretan Goddess of
> >the Sea (along with her many other atributes) and Poseidon was her
> >consort, who later usurped her maritime role.
>
> Or could it simply be that Athena is a European-flavoured version of
> *Tritos? If so, unless you see homosexuality as a large part of IE myth
> which is interesting in itself :), Poseidon (or rather *Nepo:t) is
probably
> not originally a consort of *Tritos or vice versa. Instead, they are
fellow
> warriors doing battle against something - a big bad snake? Of course,
> nothing says they can't be gay, I suppose. Afterall, what kind of a silly
> name is *Tritos, anyway? Let's call him "Lance" or "Guy" instead :)
>
> - gLeN
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