Hi Joao
From one John to another
> The link between At-Hana and Hannahanna is very plausible, although
> I'm notsure for Anahita or Anath, but it's also possible. The
> problem with Greek IE gods is that Greeks invaded Greece through
> many "waves", and I think thesyncretism was made by different ways
> in differente Greek regions.Some of the etymologies Martin Bernal
> suggested (Black Athena) are very fascinating, like APHRODITE from
> Pr-Wadjet, and Egyptian and Phoenician links are also a good clue
> for seeking Greek myths' origins. I think Athena's warrior role
> beside Zeus was a reflex of Anath beside Baal. What I'm trying to
> say is that IE, Egyptian and Semitic influences were "pasted" to a
> Pelasgian substratum. So, my ideas do not disagree with Athana
> Cretan Goddess. And about PALLAS (Pallad-)? What the origin of this
> name?
A couple of things here. It is interesting that Aphrodite is
described as a Cyprian Goddess, and she is post Cretian (according to
Yves Bonnefoy). Thus we have a Cyprian origin coming into the Aegean
with the arrival of the Phoneicians (post 1,000 BCE). Aphrodite and
Attis have clear associations with Inanna/Ishtar/Astarte and
Dammuzi/Tammuz/Adonis, and so we can see a clear Phoenician link
there. With Anath and Baal, I think we should be careful about a one
way causation. This was a husband-wife, brother-sister linkage.
There was no association of that between Zeus and Athena in classical
times, when Athena as warrior beside Zeus was most developed. There
may have been a Goddess-Consort role between Potiniya Athana and Zeus
there, but then Ugarit was the first port of call for Cretian and
Mycenaeans in the Middle East. There, later Phoenician influences
may
have been originally Aegean. Certainly the Sea Peoples were settled
widely along this coast in the post-Mycenean volkerwunderungen, and
Phoenician dynasts derived their genealogies from Mopsus of Colophon,
a minor Greek hero. There is significant evidence that Aegean mythos
entered later Jewish belief via the Philistines (David was a
Philistine mercenary in their pay, and the first High Priests in
Jerusalem were Philistines from Gerar. The stories of "wandering in
the wilderness", the "promised land" and the land of "milk and honey"
(Honey was a Cretian export - Candia in Crete is the origin of our
word for candy), and the Hebrew derivation of Philistines from
Caphtor
(Keftiu=Pillar) is all very suggestive.
> She was a different goddess? Or just another epithetus? Linked with
> Giant and Titan Pallas (Pallanto-)?
You might like to have a look at the archive of our posts Joao. We
did a search in several classical dictionaries under the name Pallas
some time ago. It revealed some interesting connections, including
our own palace, and the Pelasgoi.
> ABout Black Athena: Bernal suggested etymology khprr (sun-scarab
> Khepri) for Apollon, but I think KhPRR could be linked to titan
> HYPERION (The Sun-Titan of non-Hesiodic 14 Titans, and father of
Sun
> in Hesiodic Titans)
Interesting. I tend to agree with you. Apollo is usually seen as
Lycian in origin. Certainly his name is shared with the Tyrrenoi
(many posts on this list on this subject).
Regards
John