Re: [TIED] Uralic-Etruscan links?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 2463
Date: 2000-05-19

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From: "John Croft" <jdcroft@...>
Date sent: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:42:54 -0000
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Subject: [TIED] Uralic-Etruscan links?

John,

Hungarian has been compared with Sumerian in this way,
yielding lotsa good-looking "cognates" :). Do you think
Etruscomaniacs have never thought of Hungarian? There
are many similar lists in paralinguistic circulation.

It would be much preferable to use Proto-Finno-Ugric or
Proto-Uralic reconstructions for long-range
comparisons, or at least endorse your Modern Hungarian
forms with older data. Nursery words like apa can be
disqualified before you begin the comparative work. I'd
disqualify pronouns as well (at least at the
preliminary stage) because of high risk of accidental
similarity (how about Russian eto 'it, this', Latin
ecce, etc.?)

Piotr



Another kite

Consider this

Etruscan Hungarian English
ais(ar) isten god
apa apa father
avil év year
eca ez this
hud hat six

This would seem to suggest some Etruscan-Uralic (or at
least 
Finno-Ugric) connection. Evidence perhaps of Glen's IT
theory as 
having connections across the Steppe.

Or maybe something else. Uralic has a good chance of
being derived 
from the Mesolithic Tardenoisian of the Ukraine.
Tardenoisian as a 
culture extended from France to the Ukraine at the end
of the Ice
Age. 
If the Rhaeto-Etruscan connection is valid, and it
represents a 
survival of the pre-IE language of Europe, a cognate
Tardenoisian 
connection may be valid. In which case the Indo- part
of IT could be 
due to very early culture contact, not genetic link.

Just flying kites (again)

John






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