Re: [cybalist] Re: Tyrrhenus (was Easter)

Marcus Prometheus:

Very interesting posts for me as I am from Tuscany.

Could plase somebody give a digest
of etymons (and eventual links among them)
of all the names of Tuscany or Tuscanians ?
Also, at present which is considered the nearest affiliation
of language (or family) ?


Rasenna ( Etruscan, for the people)
TursEno-/ Tursenoi (Erodot's greek, for the people)
TurREno-/ (greek variant, for the people)
Tyrrhen-/ Tyrrhenus (Latin) - Tirreni Tirreno (Italian, for the sea)
Etruria (latin, for the country) - Etruschi (italian, for the people)
Tuscia (middle ages Latin & early Italian, for the country )
Toscana (Italian, for the country)

They look all linked except Rasenna !


Thanks in advance
Marcus Prometheus

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Poulter <dpoulter@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: mercoledì, 26 aprile, 2000 7.55
Subject: Re: [cybalist] Re: Easter


Thanks Piotr for your post. I've checked on this some more, and this is what
I've found.
/rs/ can either be maintained, or develop into /rr/ (Attic, Lesbian) or
/lengthened vowel + r/.
Leonard Palmer, in The Greek Language, states : "According to the
grammarians, initial /r/ was aspirated, as was the second /r/ in the medial
cluster /-rr-/..."
This would provide the /h/ of the Latin "Tyrrhenus", which is otherwise
unexplainable.
So, I was wrong to attribute the /h/ of Tyrrhenus to Greek /s > h/, but it
still seems to be a Greek phenomenon rather than Latin.
So, while Herodotos used /tursEno-/ exclusively, the Latin form would be
borrowed from a dialect variant /turREno-/ (R=aspirated /r/).

Regards