Re: Greater Pelasgia

From: Ivanovas/Milatos
Message: 1540
Date: 2000-02-17

Hello,

John wrote:
>there is no trace of Anatolian refugees in Crete and yet we find that
Kn-ss-
(Knossos) was already a major site 22-2500 BCE and that they too seemed
to speak a -ss-, -nd- language.<

Wrong (except you really mean the word 'refugee'... ;-))!
Knossos started as one of the earliest Neolithic sites in Greece (from the
late 7th. mill.) Its first -later- real settlement, "attested in the
earliest level of EN 1, is attributed to the arrivals of immigrants of a
higher cultural level"(permanent
architecture, fully developed pottery) Davaras in: Neolithic Culture in
Greece, Athens 1966. So no refugees, but settlers.
As -nd- words already existed in Mycenaean (although in invisible form...)
and may well go back to Minoan Linear A (undeciphered, early 2nd. millenium)
and placenames of this kind show at least Bronze Age remains on the surface
(might be Neolithic underneath ...) the PIE theory for these suffixes might
well apply if a scenario like Faucounau's turns out to be correct. Minoan
civilization doesn't show any remarkable traces of immigration apart from
the Neolithic one, so it really is possible from an archaeological point of
view.

As for Atlantis: a new idea by the geoarchaeologist Eduard Zangger says that
the ingenious water/harbour systems he seems to have detected around Troy
(which is also connected to early Etruscan images of the labyrinth)
identifies the Troy region with Atlantis - would fit perfectly into the
picture, because here was also were the later sea-peoples came from ...

And Kretschmer's meaningful article on the -nd- suffix (in German) was in
Glotta 1925 (much older than 1970, John, just as the Article by Blege/Haley
on 'the Coming of the Greeks' in AJA where they offered a map of all
those -nd- and -ss- sites around the Aegean - I believe that's the one
Palmer uses, too)!

Best wishes from Crete

Sabine (not Sylvia, but never mind, I love the woods!)