Re: A SinoTibetan-Vasconic Comparison: A very, very, very, very len

From: Guillaume JACQUES
Message: 1437
Date: 2000-02-08

Kaer Glen,

I can't answer fully today, but here is what :
>
You claim that Tibetan /sre-mo/ and AC /sla?/ are unrelated under ST.
Why
> does Tibetan always show a regular correspondance of AC /l/ to
Tibetan /r/
> just like Tibetan /nra/ and AC /nyix/ from a likely /*nlyax/ "ear"?
And why

AC : b/ni?
I don't think le -? final glottal stop comes from -r. Otherwise, how do
you explain the normal -r in AC ?
The tib. and AC forms are different both in vocalism and in initial.
That is two much to make any serious comparison unless you know other
comparable exceptions.

>
> And finally why haven't you gone into honest detail about why /lha?/
should
> be preferred over the filthy American /sla?/? Correct me if I'm wrong
but
> doesn't the *s- causitive help to clarify verb forms found in Chinese

Well, I need to make reference to chinese script (xiesheng series) and
word families to explain that. It seems you don't like chinese
characters, so I don't want to annoy you with it.

Filling the blanks & correcting the mistakes in AC.
>
> PRONOUNS AND GRAMMATICAL ITEMS:
> Dene-Caucasian SinoTib AC Tib Khin Basque
> *tLu "we" *la a/ngaj? ? ? gu
> *Nu "you" *ny@ b/na? ? ? hi
> *ni "I" (erg) b/la ni
> *ti "I" (abs) -t
> *Lu "you (pl)" b/naj? -zu-e
> *mi "who?"
> *na "what?" nor "who?"
> *su "what?" zer
> *uLu "not" ez
> *di "3p" d- (d-aki-t)
> *i "3p" b/ty (???)
> *Ni "that" hara "this"
> *ma "do not!" b/ma, b/myts, a/put,a/py
>
> BODY PARTS:
> Dene-Caucasian SinoTib AC Tib Khin Basque
> *m-lir "ear" *nlix /b/ni?/ /r-na< *nra/ /na/ belarri
> *m-hutL "eye" *mruk /b/mriwk/ ? /myi/ begi
> *m-NuN "heart" *mluN b/sym snying salum bihotz
> *m-kug "leg" b/kak
> *m-busti "beard" bibote
> *muhini "brain" buru-muin
> ? *kati "chin" *mka kokotz
>
> NUMBERS:
> Dene-Caucasian SinoTib AC Tib Khin Basque
> *sul-mu "three" *sl@... /slym/ (gsum) (masum) hiru
> *li-mu *li b/s-li bzhi < *plhi (mali)
lau
> *piNu "five" *pN@ a/nga? (lnga) (manga) bost
> *rutL "six" *truk b/rok (drug) (kru) (sei)
> *sulrit "seven" *snit /b/snit/ -bdun- ? (sanit)
sortzi "8"
> *mnrit "eight" *prit /pret/ /brgyad/ ? (matsat)
bederatzi "9"
> *hmsi "ten" *ts@-p b/gip bcu ? hamar
>
> OTHER:
> Dene-Caucasian SinoTib AC Tib Khin Basque
> *cartLuk?u *sl@?k /b/lha?/ ? ? sagu "mouse"
> "rodent"
> *buN "ruminent" behi "cow"
> *hu-sil "water" b/lhuj? ur
> *ama "mother" ama
> *ait?a "father" aita
> *c?ic?i "bark" txotx "twig"
> *uha "rain" b/wa? (elur) this
one is preferrably compared with "water", incidentally". b/lhuj? comes
probably from
lhur?. A new vasco-AC etymology !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> *Nuc? "home" *l@?s /lejs/ ? ? etxe "house"
What word ? A final -s is not possible in any modern chinese dialect.
What word are you quoting ?
>
> The last one is for fun. If one can make an obscure connection to a
single
> form in d- in an AustrAs language, I may as well offer a tentative
> hypothesis too even though I find my proposal just as unsatisying.
However,
> the term *Nuc? is probably existant in Nostratic as *kuc? and becomes
an
> unusual Vasconic *hitx (etxe). Maybe you can find a better cognate.
>
> something.
>
> >Kachin has myi, which can come from mli or myi.
> >Oh, by the way, Ngari dialect has Xnyi < gmyi for eye. Don't know
>what
> >that means.
>
> It means: "late prefixing". So Kachin DOES show regular treatment of
ancient
> DC word class prefixes! These true syllabic prefixes you speak of in
Kachin
> must be of late origin.
>
Ngari is a dialect of tibetan, not a dialect of Kachin ....


Guillaume
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