Greenberg: Eurasian & Nostratic

From: Marc Verhaegen
Message: 1393
Date: 2000-02-06

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Mark, Greenberg is not reconstructing Nostratic. He has gathered a lot of evidence that Eurasian (without Afro-Asiatic) might be a valid superfamily:
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/020100sci-archaeo-language.html       
EA languages probably got a lot of agricultural and other words from AA languages, but that does not make Nostratic (which includes AA) a valid superfamily IMO.
Marc
 
Me? O, mama. Anka bak mena. Anka mena-mena Ruhlen kuku. Kuku-kuku.     Piotr


Ooooo. Such a potty-mouth!     Nonetheless, following the opinions of those whom I respect, I gather that Piotr's assessment of Merritt Ruhlen's work is right on.     The methods Greenberg, Ruhlen, et al., use to reconstruct 'Nostratic' and other such super-groupings are not the same methods which allow us to state -- with absolute certainty, as a matter of proven 'scientific fact' -- that Proto-Indo-European was a real language spoken in a real place at a real time.     While no one disagrees with the basic notion behind the Nostratic hypothesis, the evidence presented to 'prove' this hypothesis is inadequate. What is presented is, at best, learned speculation.     The next great triumph in historic linguistics would be the conclusive proof of the common descent of IE and Uralic using the same methods that conclusively prove the reality of PIE.     Mark.