Re: Carniola et al.

From: Maximilian Hartmuth
Message: 1079
Date: 2000-01-23

Hi,

Piotr wrote:
> I'm aware of some seven or eight major groups of Slovene dialects
> (including Upper and Lower Carniolan) spoken in Slovenia and the adjacent
> parts of Austria and Italy, but Simona would be more competent in this
> matter. Lower Carniolan is the historical basis of literary Slovene,
isn't it,
> Simona?

No, literary slovene is, as far as I know, between the two main dialects
(Lower and Upper carniolan), based on "Dolenjsko". Anyone sure ?

Piotr:
> I think both Carniola and Carinthia (as well as the Carnic Alps
>) took their names from the same Celtic group -- the Carni. Do you know
any=
> thing about that, Simona and Maximilian?

This could well be possible. I thought Carniola was only the romanized form
of Krain. Carinthia comes from the principality of Carantania, founded by
alpine slavs in 600AD. (it included all of Styria, Carinthia and even
southern Lower-Austria). Maybe too from Carni, i don`t know.
....
And on the Sorbians of Germany,
it might be interesting that they are sometimes also referred to as
"Windisch" (besides Vend, Vendish, Sorbs, Lusatians, Serbscina) , the same
as the austrian slovenes` Dialect and the people are sometimes called.
(Sorbian is west-slavic, Slovene is south-slavic, but you know anyway).
By the way, austro-slovenian "Windisch" is an archaic form of slovene.
(highly influenced by german). The slovene dialects are said to be very
diverse.

Best Wishes and Regards,
Max.