Catching up: Was The Earth Goddess.

From: John Croft
Message: 983
Date: 2000-01-19

Mark wrote
>The Furies, the Eumenides, the Erinys are well known from Greek
mythology and >tragedy (they chased the matricide, Orestes, driving him
mad).
>It occurs in Mycenaean as e-ri-nu. EIEC relates this to PIE
*seren(w)uhxs, >'name of a goddess'. This is also related to the Old
Indic goddess,
>Saranyu. This is from the article 'Goddesses (Misc) by Edgar Polome
(p. 232).
>
>>Saranyu is the daughter of the divine craftsman Tvastr and the wife
of the >>Sun, to whom she bears the twins Yama and Yami. She ran away,
taking the >>shape of a mare and leaving in her stead Savarna, a woman
of similar >>appearance, with whom her husband Vivasvat (the shining
one = the rising sun) >>begets Manu. When Vivasvat discoveres how his
actual wife escaped him, he >>assumes the form of a stallion, and
arouses the desire of the mare Asvini, as >>Saranyu is now called. They
mate and give birth to the Asvins.

The Asvins have a good I-E background. Not only do they crop up in
Ahura Mazda, in Iran, they also crop up as the Asir (and possibly even
the Vanir) in Norse mythology. This relates somewhere I feel I-E
religion of warring families of Gods.

Mark again wrote of Sabine's
> We have in Crete a recurring number of placenames of the pre-Greek
kind >ending in '-inthos', the Anatolian suffix meaning 'belonging to'.
>
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> Mark comments:
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> Someone clarify this for me. I remember reading some time ago that
the suffix -inth is non-Indo-European (tacking on an -os, of course,
makes it a nice Greek noun).

The person who first drew attention to it was Leonard Palmer in his
book Mycenaeans and Minoans. He suggested there was a pre-Greek Lycian
influence, and suggested that the grey Minyan ware, previously
associated with the coming of the Greeks, came from Anatolia as it has
a widespread distribution in the West of that area (roughly alanogous
to the Hittite rival kingdom of Azarwa.)

This would also explain the Greek myth of the coming of the house of
Atreus to Mycenae and Sparta.

I suspect that it was significantly earlier than Grey Minyan ware. The
Times Atlas of World History shows migrations out of Anatolia circa
22-2,400 BCE, associated with a wave of burnings from Troy, Tortan,
Beycultestan etc. This has been identified with the arrival of the
Anatolian I-E speakers. Refugees spread to Greece (inthos group) and
to Cyprus (the Phillia culture came from Cilicia).

Hope this helps

John