Re: Odp: Goliath and Uriah the Hittite as IE -
From: Ivanovas/Milatos
Message: 493
Date: 1999-12-08
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<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">HIT, Pjotr!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">You wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">>By the bye, <STRONG>Avaris</STRONG>
would have a beautiful Anatolian etymology if it were >a Hyksos name and if
the Hyksos had had anything to do with the >southern Luwians. (I suppose
Brent could comment on those "ifs".) Hittite <STRONG>>awaris
</STRONG>means 'watchtower, border sentry', and is derived from the verb
<STRONG>>au</STRONG>-/<STRONG>aus</STRONG>- 'see'.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">I cite Niemeier&Niemeier, Minoan
Frescoes in the Eastern Mediterranean, Aegeum 18,1998:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">As the earlier Austrian excavations under
the directorship of Bietak at Tell el Dab'a and other excavations in the eastern
Nile Delta have demonstrated, the Hyksos rule of the Second Intermediate Period
followed a considerable influx of Canaanites from Syria-Palestine, and <FONT
color=#ff0000>Tell el Dab'a was the Hyksos capital Avaris</FONT>." p. 79 (with
extensive bibliography, color change by me).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">In Tell el Dab'a archaeologists found
fragments of a bull-leaping fresco (!!!, the only other bull-leaping fresco is
in Minoan Knossos) on a background of labyrinthine structures (typically
Cretan), underlaid with (again typically Cretan) half rosettes (as in the well
known Grand Stand fresco in Knossos).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">The Niemeiers suppose there might have
been itinerant fresco painters from Crete (or educated in Crete), thus proving a
kind of "an �lite koin� - artistic, iconographical, ideological, technological -
in the circumstances of the intense maritime interaction between the coastal
areas of the Eastern Mediterranean." citing Sherratt, Comment on Ora Negbi, The
'Libyan Landscape' from Thera. /etc.../JMA 7.2 (1994), p.237, here p.
95.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">The excavator himself believes the
frescoes "were painted by Minoan artists belonging to the entourage of a
Knossian princess married to the pharaoh"... ibd.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">I wonder who gave that Anatolian name
'Avaris' to the town!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Let me add a bye the bye: Finkelberg in
her article on Linear A ( : Minoan Inscriptions on Libation Vessels, Minos25,
1990) says: "there is no disagreement between Lycian and Minoan that cannot be
accounted for in terms of historical linguistics". (p. 79).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Again: very interesting,
indeed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Greetings from Crete</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Sabine</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>